Vince Gilligan and Rhea Seehorn, the creators and stars of Apple TV's Pluribus, share their insights on their creative process, collaboration, and the impact of their characters. They discuss their deep love for the Pluribus crew, the importance of their characters, and the challenges of balancing curmudgeon-like personalities with a positive work environment. Gilligan and Seehorn explore the complexities of their characters, Carol Sturka and Kim Wexler, and how they relate to each other on a personal level. They also delve into the creative process, including the importance of taking a scene 'until it breaks' and the impact of their collaboration on the show's success.